NEW YORK — After the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, numerous workers were fired for their comments on his death, among them MSNBC political analyst Matthew Dowd.
Several conservative activists sought to identify social media users whose posts about Kirk they viewed as offensive or celebratory, targeting everyone from journalists to teachers. Right-wing influencer Laura Loomer said she would try to ruin the professional aspirations of anyone who celebrated Kirk's death.
It's far from the first time workers lost their jobs over things they say publicly — including in social media posts. Still, the speed of the firings raised questions about worker rights versus employer rights.
In the U.S., laws can vary across states, but overall, there's very little legal protections for employees who are punished for speech made in and out of private workplaces.
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"Most people think they have a right to free speech … but that doesn't necessarily apply in the workplace," said Vanessa Matsis-McCready, associate general counsel and vice president of HR Services for Engage PEO. "Most employees in the private sector do not have any protections for that type of speech at work."
The prevalence of social media made it increasingly common to track employees' conduct outside of work and to dox people, or publish information about them online with the intent of harming or harassing them.

A tribute to Charlie Kirk is shown Saturday on the Jumbotron before a NASCAR Cup Series auto race in Bristol, Tenn.
Employers have a lot of leeway
Protections for workers vary by state. In New York, if an employee participates in a weekend political protest but doesn't associate themselves with the organization that employs them, their employer cannot fire them for that activity when they return to work. If that employee is at a weekend company event and talks about their political viewpoints, making others feel unsafe or targeted by discrimination or harassment, then they could face consequences at work, Matsis-McCready said.
Most of the U.S. defaults to "at-will" employment law — essentially employers can choose to hire and fire as they see fit.
"The First Amendment does not apply in private workplaces to protect employees' speech," said Andrew Kragie, an attorney who specializes in employment and labor law at Maynard Nexsen. "It actually does protect employers' right to make decisions about employees, based on employees' speech."
Kragie said there are "pockets of protection" around the U.S. under various state laws, such as statues that forbid punishing workers for their political views. But interpretation of how that is enforced changes, he notes, making the waters murky.
Steven T. Collis, a law professor at the University of Texas at Austin and faculty director of the school's Bech-Loughlin First Amendment Center, also points to some state laws that say employers can't fire their workers for "legal off duty conduct." But there's often an exception for conduct seen as disruptive to an employer's business or reputation, which could be grounds to fire someone over public comments or social media posts.
"In this scenario, if somebody feels like one of their employees has done something that suggests they are glorifying or celebrating a murder, an employer might still be able to fire them even with one of those laws on the books," Collis said.
For public employees, which can range from school teachers and postal workers to elected officials, the process is different. The First Amendment plays a unique role when the government is the employer, Collis explains. The Supreme Court ruled that if an employee is acting in a private capacity but speaking on a matter of public concern, they could be protected. Still, he noted government employers can discipline a worker if they determine such conduct will interfere with the government's ability to do its job.
Some in the public sector worked to restrict speech in the aftermath of Kirk's death. For instance, leaders at the Pentagon unveiled a "zero tolerance" policy for posts or comments from troops that make light of or celebrate Kirk's killing.
The policy, announced by the Pentagon's top spokesman Sean Parnell on social media Thursday, came hours after numerous conservative military influencers and activists began forwarding posts they considered problematic to Parnell and his boss, defense secretary Pete Hegseth.
"It is unacceptable for military personnel and Department of War civilians to celebrate or mock the assassination of a fellow American," Parnell wrote Thursday.

Supporters gather Saturday at a makeshift memorial at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, for Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk, who was fatally shot during an event on the campus.
A surge of political debate
Social media makes it easier than ever to share opinions about politics and major news events. That leaves a record and, in times of escalating political polarization, those declarations can be seen as damaging to the reputation of an individual or their employer.
"People don't realize when they're on social media, it is the town square," said Amy Dufrane, CEO of the Human Resource Certification Institute. "They're not having a private conversation with the neighbor over the fence. They're really broadcasting their views."
Political debates increasingly make their way into workplaces, as well.
"The gamification of the way we communicate in the workplace, Slack and Teams, chat and all these things, they're very similar to how you might interact on Instagram or other social media, so I do think that makes it feel a little less formal and somebody might be more inclined to take to take a step and say, 'Oh, I can't believe this happened,'" Matsis-McCready said.
Employers are not ready
Many human resource professionals expressed that they're unprepared to address politically charged discussions in the workplace, according to the Human Resource Certification Institute. Those conversations will happen, so employers need to set policies about what is acceptable or unacceptable workplace conduct, Dufrane said.
"HR has got to really drill down and make sure that they're super clear on their policies and practices and communicating to their employees on what are their responsibilities as an employee of the organization," Dufrane said.
Many employers are reviewing their policies on political speech and providing training about what appropriate conduct looks like, both inside and outside the organization, she said. The brutality of Kirk's killing may have led some to react more strongly after his death.
"Because of the violent nature of what some political discussion is now about," Matsis-McCreedy said, "I think there is a real concern from employers that they want to keep the workplace safe and that they're being extra vigilant about anything that could be viewed as a threat, which is their duty."Â
Employees can also be seen as ambassadors of a company's brand, and their political speech can dilute that brand and hurt its reputation, depending on what is said and how it is received. That leads more companies to act on what employees are saying online, she said.
"Some of the individuals that had posted and their posts went viral, all of a sudden the phone lines of their employers were just nonstop calls complaining," Matsis-McCready said.
Still, experts don't anticipate a significant change in how employers monitor their workers speech — noting that online activity came under the spotlight for at least the last 15 years.
Collis noted, "Employers are already and have been for a very long time, vetting employees based on what they're posting on social media."
Charlie Kirk mourned after his assassination

People attend a vigil at Timpanogos Regional Hospital for Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Alex Goodlett)

Well-wishers arrive at the national headquarters of Turning Point USA shown after the shooting death of Charlie Kirk, the co-founder and CEO of the organization during a Utah college event, Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2025, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

People outside at Timpanogos Regional Hospital attend a vigil for Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, on Wednesday, Sept. 10, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Alex Goodlett)

Luke Byrd, center, of Phoenix, breaks down during a prayer gathering as people spend time at a makeshift memorial set up at Turning Point USA headquarters after the shooting death at a Utah college on Wednesday of Charlie Kirk, the 31-year-old founder and CEO of the organization, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

A well-wisher prays at a makeshift memorial set up at Turning Point USA headquarters after the shooting death at a Utah college on Wednesday of Charlie Kirk, the co-founder and CEO of the organization, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

The casket containing the body of Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed on Wednesday is removed from Air Force Two at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

Vice President JD Vance, right, Second Lady Usha Vance, center, and Erika Kirk deplane Air Force Two, carrying the body of Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

People watch a hearse containing the body of Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA, who was shot and killed on Wednesday leave after the body arrived aboard Air Force Two at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

A woman lays her head down on a seat during a vigil at CenterPoint Church for Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

People embrace during a vigil for Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

A sign with a message about Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, sits at a vigil in his memory, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Jill, left, reacts during a vigil for Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

A man kneels during a vigil for Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA who was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

People raise and clasp their hands during a prayer event at CenterPoint Church the day after Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Congregants bow their heads during a prayer event at CenterPoint Church the day after Charlie Kirk, the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA was shot and killed, Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Wendy Lucas, a Utah Valley University student, looks at a memorial set up for Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, Friday, Sept. 12, 2025. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Visitors pay their respects at a memorial for Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Visitors pay their respects at a memorial for Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

ADDS NAMES - Christopher Bradford, right, and daughter Neriah Bradford, of Pace, Utah, pay their respects at a memorial for Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

People wrapped in an American flag attend a New York Young Republicans Club vigil for Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk at Madison Square Park on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in New York. (AP Photo/Kena Betancur)

Attendees pay their respects at a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

A man holds a candle as attendees pay their respects during a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Valerie Alexander, left, and husband David Alexander stand during a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Alex Thomson holds a "Make America Great Again" hat during a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Ryan Shaw holds American flags during a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Candles are seen at a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Ginger Keller pays her respects during a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Attendees pay their respects during a vigil for Charlie Kirk on Friday, Sept. 12, 2025, in Provo, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)

Attendees pray during a prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk at the Historic Lake County Courthouse in Tavares, Fla., Thursday, Sept. 11, 2025. (Stephen M. Dowell/Orlando Sentinel via AP)

Women pray at a memorial outside Utah Valley University after Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk was shot and killed, Saturday, Sept. 13, 2025, in Orem, Utah. (AP Photo/Lindsey Wasson)